If you want to read the full articles please fallow the links!

Sorry for put so many quotes but they are necessary to enforce my point of view.

Someone here concider himself a thief?

I do not, although having downloaded almost every film released by Axxo and after him by secretmyth, which are my favorite rippers, but has drawn many more and now i lost my count, I went to see some of these movies at the cinema, even after have downloaded them, said what they will said, accuse me of everything they want, I consider myself less a thief than the people who make movies, because I do not win anything with downloads that i do and the people from Hollywood are increasingly buried in cash!

Take for example the list of 20 most profitable films of all time:

Rank Title Worldwide Box Office
1. Avatar (2009) $2,211,595,771
2. Titanic (1997) $1,835,300,000
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $1,129,219,252
4. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) $1,060,332,628
5. The Dark Knight (2008) $1,001,921,825
6. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) $968,657,891
7. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) $958,404,152
8. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) $937,000,866
9. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009) $933,956,980
10. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) $922,379,000
11. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) $921,600,000
12. Jurassic Park (1993) $919,700,000
13. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) $892,194,397
14. Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009) $887,773,705
15. Spider-Man 3 (2007) $885,430,303
16. Shrek 2 (2004) $880,871,036
17. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) $866,300,000
18. Finding Nemo (2003) $865,000,000
19. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) $860,700,000
20. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) $848,462,555

in "All-Time Worldwide Box office" - www.imdb.com

Imagine the times you can rebuild Haiti with this money, and these are only 20 movies ...

You think these gentlemen need to worry about mortgages, or if they worry about spending their salary in the supermarket to eat or pay their bills!

Think if is it time to change what is wrong, they really need a war to end this hypocrisy?!
And our leaders think they are willing to make these changes?!
I honestly do not think so, because you only need to compare bank account of a politician with a movie star, the slope is astronomical, no political gain as much as a successful filmmaker and everyone knows that money is power!

But the changes have to be made, as were made in past centuries with the church and its censorship, as was done with the lords of oil and the laws to approve and fund new forms of clean energy.

Are we that could do these changes, we who elected our leaders, every vote, every word of rebellion, every manifestation!

That is why it is important not to be afraid, it is important not to give up and every seed is important!

Here some websites that you could like to visit:
http://www.stealthisfilm.com/ (See that movies)
http://torrentfreak.com/
Against intellectual property
http://baywords.com/
http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/
Everything You Need To Refute a File-Sharing Legal Threat

Please leave your comment, that is a topic that matters to everyone here!

AND DARKSIDE RG IS NOT A CLEARING HOUSE!

Yes,i am evil, yes i download...Hell they really think that they can make more money by restricting the Internet. How do they think we did it in the old days? It's all about the money. Ok , i agree that it takes a lot of know how, money, sweat and tears to produce a movie of like "Avatar "quality. But they got paid! They had a succes. And i don't think that every individual that worked on that movie get's a share of the box office's and the Dvd sale's. Only the producer and the copyright owner.

Personally, i get the Dvd of the movie i really like. I downloaded "Avatar" but i will buy it when it comes out. Also my biggest problem is that i can not find any tv shows, movies i want to buy in my country, so i do the only thing possible i download them.

This war exsist since the computer was invented for home use. It won't end. But instead of the wankers try a new aproach , they keep attacking.

Well these guys are mentally stuck in the the previous era, they are used to churning out stuff and expect nothing to ever change.

They have stood still, times have changed, but they haven't changed with the times.

It's like a great athlete who is good in his chosen event, who then decides that he/she is so good they don't need to train anymore, for a time they can get away with it, eventually they will get overtaken by some other athlete who has taken the time to improve themself.

IMHO the cinema cannot be replaced, Many many happily go to the cinema if there is something they really want to see, I will go only if I can get a VIP seat, (I don't like sitting with the rabble who cannot eat their popcorn from the top of the bag, but seem possessed at eating the ones at the very bottom first, or the person with the chronic coughing fit, or the guess the next scene idiot)

As far as the getting of the video..............

These corporations have only one thing in mind ...........money!!!!


I agree with that what you have written if i was to add my true thoughts on the matter and if there were no rules I would be a literary Tourettes typist on speed, crack etc

Which is why I will never understand why if people want to have the access to be able to get movies, music etc, then what is their problem with seeding?

You can't get a little bit pregnant, you either are in or out, these pseudo dinks will always hit and run, I am still seeding stuff from 3 years ago, I am seeding currently over 30 items simultaneously, which I will be trimming down gradually over the next few weeks.

I will in the future not be doing any reseeds?

Why should I?

Someone d/ls and then runs, they are not passing on something they got for free????????

F*** em

The whole ethos and spirit is lost on these people.

I have heard all sorts of male cow excrement of why people are unable to seed.

Fact!!!!

If you can download, you can seed.

Don't know how?

Once downloaded, leave it alone.

Not rocket science, if you have the personality to do it.

There will alway be 'haters' even if you do 1000 ups, you will have detractors, mainly because if you do latest releases etc, some will d/l, won't say thanks but will start making copies and selling them to their colleagues, they get it free but sell it on, if someone stops, this will be when you hear from these haters.

The corporate industry will attack because they don't know how to find a solution I have thought of 2 they could do but they don't seem to be able to generate any ideas, but then again they have only been ever able to think one way dimensionally

You are right change can be bought about but everyone has to want to make it happen, too many enjoy the benefits but don't do their bit.

They want the harvest but forget it's the seeds that produce the crops.

Good post

The BlacK Knight

The two main points from the quotes in the OP that the industry needs to take on board are these





The claim is that "the industry is sustaining a loss", whereas the reality is that "they are not showing a hypothetical gain". Two completely different and unrelated statements.

As already pointed out in this thread, it doesn't appear that the industry is going broke as a result of file sharing. In fact they seem to be making money hand-over-fist.

They need to have a re-think and change their approach to the whole affair. Criminalising millions is not the way to go.

I firmly believe in the concept of intellectual property. When that property becomes public ( a film, a book, a musical recording. etc.) and is released into the public domain, it is no longer "intellectual property" it has become public property. As long as there have been story tellers, there's been re-tellers. Is that to be construed as theft? When you hear a song on the radio and hum or sing it in the shower, are you guilty of "piracy"? If you quote a section of a poem to your loved one, have you stolen from the poet or elevated the poet to a loftier status. While simplistic examples, the simpler the example the greater its validity. Complexity does not change a concept, it can only be used to obscure the concept.

The piracy argument doesn't hold. The only change is the technology. As we all know it's an argument designed to increase profit.
Broken down into its most basic concept, modern intellectual property concepts are false on their face and simply cannot be sustained as a viable argument when the objective is to release it into the public domain whether for profit or, in most of our cases, to disseminate as much information as possible to as many as possible.

The genie is out of the bottle. No matter what directives are handed down from those guardians of liberty we elect, they will not be able to force the genie back into the bottle. The argument for the rights of those that simply put up the money to release someone else's property for profit is .

Even the musical groups which rant about piracy would be hard pressed to deny they have not listened to someone else's record, been inspired and written another piece of music that can be directly traced to the original recording. If that argument is to be followed to its logical conclusion, we must each buy their record, take it home and not allow anyone else to hear it but the buyer.

An argument built on absurdity can never be sustained.

KAHN...

Exactly right, and if it gets too bad, good ole sneakernets still work great.

I think maybe we'll get to a point where the price of dvd's and bluray's going to be much more accessible, and even perhaps create a kind of legal downloads where the buyer pulls directly from the vendor's site and as there is low cost of the transaction price and the Download in itself becomes reduced...

But for that studios and filmmakers have to put aside the greed...

This is the mirror of the world we live in, the more they have, more they want!

And we are here to ensure that those who can not afford to buy all the movies they want, could download them, for little or nothing that costs us. And do not come with crap, that a movie costs a lot to do, does not cost a hundredth part of the profit that they have. Imagine if everyone gets to 100 times more than what you spend!