Has anyone ever heard of this site? I've been a member for a good year and it's a Great site! The site isn't filled with "nutters" like most people seem to think. It actually has very educated people who clearly support their views with good evidence and it ALWAYS has interesting articles to read. If you haven't heard of it you should check it out.

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P.S. Not trying to advertise this site, I just think this is a great site that people should look around :)

It's full of wacko nut jobs who think they know things. You couldn't sort fact from fiction on that site if you had a thousand years and a pair of tweezers. It a place for people to complain to each other. Some of it may or may not have truth (I think SOME) of it does, but it's more like every Tom, Dick, and Harry has a theory and everyone else believes him.

I'd be getting out my thirty-nine and a half foot pole before going around there again.

This isn't really a Banna Republic discussion as no question or theory was posed of the correct nature. You only asked what people think of a particular site.



If you wish to discuss Conspiracy Theories we have a thread already going strong here for that linky

Nevertheless, myself and another admin looked at this topic when first posted and I decided to leave it here - its as good a place as any, and no doubt the topic will eventually change into yet another debate about conspiracy theories (given the nature of the site linked to), in which case it may or may not get merged with one of the existing ones, depending on the direction the topic goes.

Thanks swollen.



Granted some of the things people post are complete BS, but if you LOOK AROUND you will see that some of the members actually have good evidence to back up their claims (like 9/11 was an inside job). "Deny Ignorance" is their motto.

OMG not that 9/11 inside job plz. That is based on the worst possible evidence and ignores proven facts if that's your example of good evidence I'll definitely give it a miss. No offense intended but the 9/11 theory is for complete nutballs

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Jesus, edmurth and PH8AL wake up once and for all, 911 was an inside job as sure as 1+1=2. Period. End of discussion. However that doesn't mean I accept everything M.Moore and others are saying about it.

And what about the proven facts that support the fact that it was an "inside job". They far outnumber the "ignored proven facts".

I know I'm opening myself up to the theory's of how it was explosive demolition or the gap's in the video footage or even that face in the cloud lol but go on name the FACTS that prove it was an "inside job" . I love a good conspiracy theory but I'm afraid the so called evidence has got so many holes in it you may as well of said it was JFK stood on a grassy knoll in central park with a bb gun!

I suggest you take a look in the linky that Flatline has provided, plenty of reading supporting both sides of the arguement.

Agree 200%. Americans learn to live with the possibility you've elected a mass murderer for president twice.

I think that many people find it hard to believe that their governments could possibly have anything to do with the Fact that we are being lied to everyday by Governments all over the world on at least a daily basis,let alone the FACT that there are sanctioned Murders and explosions ect ect everyday around the world.It would not be in the best interest of any government to admit their part in any act that has caused harm or Death to any of its citizens,That doesn`t mean it is not true or that its not happening.
What are deemed conspiricies by some are taken as Truth by others depending on what their views and perceptions are and in some cases by their religious Beliefs...It is very Hard for most people to understand what it takes to kill someone and the thought of any one in the public eye having anything to do with things on the scale of the World Trade centers being brought down or the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan are beyond most "normal"peoples comprehension especially when politicians are seen on TV everyday denying any part of what happend is their fault,lets not forget who pays for the inquiries into the aftermath of such things too..would you have someone investigate you "PROPERLY" if you knew you had anything at all to do with some thing like that? I know I would`nt. It is Far easier to Blame some thing on an individual or group of people that have already had their Name slandered and tarnished to meet political and financial ends.
We have to Remember too that the media is very much censored in its ability to publish anything about anyone that is not politically expediant on the day we see it in the papers and we will only ever be told what politicians and High government officials want us to hear..if we do happen to obtain information that is not really going to make the government look good or bring the public against them in any way it is deemed a conspiricy theory and lambasted by Paid "PROFESSIONALS" or "EXPERTS" to startle us with science or baffle us with Bullshit!
Most people don`t want to know about how "democracy" is none exsistant or that foul deeds are done everyday so we can live as we do..In the forces we called it "People being Wide asleep" perfectly lucid but just not looking at the bigger picture of what is happening in their country as a whole..
So before we start ranting and raving that these people are a "Bunch of Nutters" or they are "too stupid to understand reality" Remember we will only ever get the reality we are given to understand and Time will only be able to tell what really did happen on that day in 2001..
I HATE ALL POLITICIANS and I would love to see a world where everyone has to take responsibility for what they have done ,but hey ... thats a dream world too is`nt it..
Just my Opinion .

I took a look at that site and it seemed to me to be lot of opinion and theories and some interesting food for thought there but lacking in hard truth.

I'd love to see real evidence proving (or disproving for that matter) the fact that sept 11 2001 was an inside job and while my heart tells me it most certainly was, I cant find any indisputable facts to prove it once and for all, unfortunately

What gets me is there's conspiracy theories about everything. There's hundreds or prominent ones like Illuminati controlling the governments, Freemasons doing whatever they're not supposed to be doing, the US government bringing down the towers, CIA killing JFK, the vatican.....gawd it's endless, there's even one that says Beanz didn't do it and there's circumstantial evidence for all of them but proof for none of them. Some of these theories have been around for decades but even with new technologies emerging all the time (DNA and trace evidence techniques etc) not one of the big conspiracy theories has ever been conclusively proved.

Surely if even ten percent of these theories were true at least a couple of them would have been proved by now.

Couldn't agree more Badog but then thats the problem. The people who come up with these theory's want to believe them for there own reasons and even if you present them with evidence that contradicts what they say they will find a way to ignore the facts

All the deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan etc et al are mass murders, indisputable deaths but put into nicer terms.



It is hard to get hard evidence for or against. There was one thing I saw in one of the 9-11 videos about one of the towers falling at the speed related to acceleration due to gravity. In other words there was no resistance to the fall. If this is true then somehow the whole building disintegrated at the same moment, or as the top reached it on its fall. How you want to interpret this is up to you...



We are humans and humans conspire. As there are a lot of us, many conspiracies must exist. Whether the popular theories match the correct conspiracies or not is another matter.

I like to delve into conspiracy theory most often than not for humor, it never ceases to amaze my the kind of dingbat crap you can get people to believe by way of grift. How ever when it comes to making up my own opinion I lean heavily on Occam's Razor.

The terrorist brag of doing it, and all the theories are far to complicated to explain the facts, not to mention, they all cite speculation and assumption as fact.

The whole speculation that it was done to get us into a war is way over blown. after Bush Senior's glorious victory in Kuwait then almost a decade of Clinton's lack of reaction to Islamic Extremist the majority of Americans were primed for something to be done, prewar polls showed it. They could have blown up a Denny's in in Jersey and the majority would have rallied behind what ever crap the POTUS spouted.

In my opinion if the White House was involved they would have used a target that big to go after several countries not just Afghanistan, which remember is who we attacked because of 9/11.

If you remember correctly that being in a war already almost lost Bush his chance to invade Iraq and he would have used the same reasons to invade Iraq even if 9/11 never happened, because it didn't have much to do with 9/11 except the general lust for revenge against any one Muslim.

As far as what happened to the towers them selves, you can plan for an airliner to fly into a building but no one really knows what will happen until you do it. Planned demolitions rarely damage surrounding buildings as heavily as this, if it was that then it was a very sloppy job.

Jet fuel burns at to low a temp to burn steel or concrete when burned openly but make a wind funnel like a giant hole in a building take into account the wind speeds that day and the real temps of the fire could be a lot hotter maybe even as hot as a forge. Ever watch a blacksmith work he uses bellows to blow air into the base of a fire that other wise would not even be close to hot enough to melt any ferrous metal.

Did I mention the terrorist took credit?

Now I think we have reached the point this should be joined with the conspiracy theory thread.

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I think it's being read into a little too much. If you really want, you can find a conspiracy theory in everything. They also have Talk Like a Pirate Day, or is that a conspiracy, too?

Above Top Secret? reads more like Another Teen Site to me.

The guy right of center at time 2:47 looks like Elvis??